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Fake Point Gainers


Posted Date: 04 Nov 2009      Posted By: Manish Jain      Member Level: Gold     Points: 1   Responses: 11



Hello Friends,

Once again I am with something new and interesting to share with all of you. The new thing that I am going to discuss now is a good concept but still my motto is the same " To change the system you have to be in the system." and just after a fortnight at ISC I thought to clear all the ill effects from the site and make it a better education site for the students of India and since now I have been chosen as a Trainee Editor for the School and College Section so I thought to start from the same sections and tried to clear some ill effects through my post Maintain Standard at ISC and with it I made a first step towards my target.

This is my Second forum through which I will show you how small mistakes can create a big difference. My post is bring to your notice about the PENDING posts on ISC. You might be thinking what is new , interesting and bad in this, as it provides the writer with another opportunity to correct the mistakes that they had done previously, but friends you must also see the counter and most advantageous part of these PENDING posts.

You all will agree with me that many or I should say most of the members on ISC are seasonal and nearly 95% of the members have came here just to earn some kind of pocket money except those 5% members who are here to share or to advice others. I have gone through the PENDING status and then ultimately came to a conclusion about How this Pending Status can be used by those seasonal members to come for a shorter duration and making such post which either gets approved or can be in Pending status or sometimes get rejected, but doing so they earn a lot by becoming MEMBER OF THE WEEK CONTEST as the contest most of the times is won by the person who has earned highest points in a Week.

The interesting point is that the points for the post those are in Pending Status are also counted in the members account and after winning the contest or once after posting many of the members never again even thinks about the post.

Suggestions:

1.) Pending status points should not be involved in total points earned
2.) Points should only be allotted once the status is approved.
3.) The post which are in pending for so long can be deleted so that others can also post such article.


I have found more than 1600 posts in schools and college section which are in pending that means out of which nearly 1200 posts have completed one month being in the pending stage, that simply means that 6000 points are being awarded to those members who really do not deserve those points.

Please see to this problem and kindly make some changes in the point calculation.


QUOTE: To change the system you have to be in the system.

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Writer,
Manish Jain
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Author: Pawan Bahuguna    04 Nov 2009Member Level: DiamondRating: 2 out of 52 out of 5     Points: 2

It looking like a very good suggestion from Manish. I think this can be done that when a a post is put in pending just give zero point to it as said by manish.

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Author: Renjith.R.P    04 Nov 2009Member Level: GoldRating: 2 out of 52 out of 5     Points: 4

Hello friends,

I also feel that manish is right. The unwanted posts which have been in the pending status for a long time must be deleted. I have two posts in the pending section. I contacted with the editors and put a forum message to know about the errors to be corrected.

But I did not get ant response from the editors. In my opinion if there are are some minor errors to be corrected it should be pointed out. Or if the post is not of good quality it can be deleted. Keeping it in pending status for a long time and giving the opportunity for members to earn fake points is not good.

Regards ,
Renjith

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Author: Jose Mathew    04 Nov 2009Member Level: DiamondRating: 2 out of 52 out of 5     Points: 4

Hi Manish,

We noticed the issue long back. The posts are moved in to pending state by the editors is to give a chance to the members to make changes. In school and college section the posts with out full details are moved in to pending stage. This allows the members to correct the information. Most of the members are not aware of this.

We have to arrange a massive editing program to remove all the pending posts in ISC. We have to done it before December. The main aim of the selection of trainee editors are to clear the pending works in ISC. Hope all trainee editors will co operate with the project.

With regards
Jose Mathew
Webmaster ISC



Author: N K Ravishankara    04 Nov 2009Member Level: DiamondRating: 2 out of 52 out of 5     Points: 4

Jose Sir is quite right, as a trainee editor for forum section, I found a lot of copied contents in the form of responses, those has to be checked with from where it is copied, later it deserves the right place, as on date I found more than 300 responses were copied from other sources, once it is confirmed after verification as it is copied, then such responses will be deleted.

Further, as per the guidelines of ISC, the copy and paste process is not allowed strictly, in this aspect the co-operation of the members is also required, as the copy and paste the contents or texts takes few seconds of time, where as the process of checking may take more time than required, which puts more burden on editors.


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Author: Amit Siwach    05 Nov 2009Member Level: GoldRating: 2 out of 52 out of 5     Points: 3

This is nice interpretation by Manish and offcourse a nice answer by Jose. There should be something liable about the pending items as these increases credit which should be deleted or accepted after a complete review so as to maintain the equilibrium in the credit points and cash.

But with raise of concern about the members at ISC I dont feel that all the members are here to make income. Majority is for the sake of sharing and distributing knowledge to the students and who are indeed.

Regards
Amit Siwach
ISC Gold Member



Author: Renjith.R.P    05 Nov 2009Member Level: GoldRating: 2 out of 52 out of 5     Points: 2

Hello jose sir,

In your response you have told that the pending post are left for the members to correct the mistakes.
I made some changes in the pending posts. But I dont think it was reviewed by editors again. It is still in pending status.

Regards ,
Renjith

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Author: Nilesh Panchal    05 Nov 2009Member Level: DiamondRating: 2 out of 52 out of 5     Points: 4

Hi Manish,

Your point is somewhere valid. Even today and yesterday I noticed one of our member id "afzal" has posted about more than 100 schools which has incomplete address and email and phone numbers are his personal. Initially few posts I kept in pending but I was aware that this will add points to his profile but not useful for ISC because I sent him the personal message from his profile to correct this things.

He has not yet corrected and still posting the same so I now started completely deleting the posts.


Jose: I think this points allotment should happen when posts is accepted.

Nilesh Panchal
College Editor of IndiaStudyChannel
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Author: N K Ravishankara    05 Nov 2009Member Level: DiamondRating: 2 out of 52 out of 5     Points: 4

Here I would like to mention further that, some members have posted some lengthy answers in Ask Expert question as 'Anonymous', which I found rather difficult to trace, that too copied from other websites, they copy more than once, and by default atleast they get 2 points for a single response, if they do that more than once it multiplies for the same question, they answer like that for several questions, if such will be the case then they easily make more than 100 points from Ask Expert section only in a single day, in one section.

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Author: Ankush Das    05 Nov 2009Member Level: DiamondRating: 2 out of 52 out of 5     Points: 4

Hi Nilesh,
First I will answer your query. The points a member earns before a resource is approved is only an indication. It doesn't calculate to the Total Points at all according to what I know. Once a resource is approved, only then the Total Points of the member is updated which actually determines the Member Level of the member. So in that way, I don't think there is any problem at all really.

Hi Renjith,
If you have edited your resource, please inform the concerned editor with the link to your post about your updation. Besides, please tell me the section where you have edited the post? I will guide you to the appropriate editor if you do not know him/her.

Regards,
Ankush Das
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Author: RajmiArun    05 Nov 2009Member Level: DiamondRating: 2 out of 52 out of 5     Points: 5

Dear all,
I totally agree with Manish, with regard to fake points. But in some sections like Business, the pending posts are left for the members to correct the mistakes. Though from time to time, the editors check the pending posts too, I would here suggest the members to send a message to the editors to check their post along with the url, yes along with the url in case of business, resources, which will help the editors trace the post easily, rather than going through the lenghty process of tracing it through the profile page.

If still after you have sent a message, your post is in pending, check again, for the following aspects:
1. Have you given all the required information
2. Is there any unwanted html tags
3. Does your post contain a photo inbetween the post
4. Have you written everything in caps
5. Have you changed the font size and colour

If all these are checked then you will understand why your post is in pending. ISC always gives a chance and a second chance too to correct the mistakes.



Author: Ashis Dubey    06 Nov 2009Member Level: DiamondRating: 2 out of 52 out of 5     Points: 3

Dear Friends,
Manish is correct and we should do something immediately to modify the current system for the benefit of all members and to maintain/improve the standard of ISC.

I have a suggestion to avoid this type of situation.
7 Days Time Limit For Pending posts

With regards,
Ashis Dubey
Editor
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